topic Re: Blooming Elegant in Create Products

Blooming Elegant

homespuncottage — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 15:43:49 GMT

First of all, thank you Zazzle for listening to our suggestions. I have noticed the new fonts and I'm very excited, to see the additional script fonts, however, I don't see Blooming Elegant script or the other Blooming Elegant font on the list. I did go to a product on the marketplace where the designer had used the font and it did indicate in the design tool that it was blooming elegant but I don't see it as a selection in the fonts available. My question is will this cause a problem with designs that have already been made and will blooming elegant be back because although it's over used, I do like the glyphs that can be added. Thank you again for all that you do. I hope I'm not just missing something, I did check several times for the missing fonts.

Beverly

Re: Blooming Elegant

DesignerOne — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 16:40:38 GMT

In their email they had said something like

“But not to worry about the removal part; we have already anticipated and will be transitioning the designs for you automatically for as many designs as possible. And if the automagic doesn't meet your needs, you will have product edit access to make any changes needed.”

It doesn’t seem like they fully grasp that retiring fonts would greatly affect hundreds and thousands of already published designs. We designers are not here writing essays on a word document where changing a font from Times New Roman to Garamond is inconsequential. The FONTs we selected to use are very much a part of the design. When we choose a font it is because the selected font works very well with the rest of the other elements in the design, you can’t simply do a switcheroo with fonts, that would throw off the entire design.

Re: Blooming Elegant

Cat — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:31:51 GMT

Blooming Elegant is still there. It's listed under "handwriting & calligraphy" not under "script." I haven't seen any new fonts though.

Re: Blooming Elegant

Marcia — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:44:41 GMT

I seriously HOPE it is. It's on most of my best sellers. I am so screwed if Zazzle does away with this font, new automatically substituted fonts, or not. (I haven't seen any of the new fonts yet, either.)

Re: Blooming Elegant

KeegansCreation — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:54:31 GMT

Booming Elegant is no longer under "handwriting +calligraphy" (or in "all fonts") so they must be doing a rolling rollout. I just got the new ones today.

In addition to new script fonts (of which there are many), they did a re-org of the existing fonts. There are now two new categories: sci fi and vintage+retro. Neither has new fonts. It's just a re-org. Sci fi has Sonic and Orbit (obvious choices) but also some that were previously in Sans Serif, like Prima Bold. Vintage Retro has what you would expect: Cloister (medieval), Guest Check (1920's), Daddy O Hip (1950's) etc. Symbols has been whittled down to two fonts; the zodiac one and the symbol one (@, % etc.). Woe unto anybody who was using the others (unless they get frozen in place where they are on the design) because there is no similar font.

Re: Blooming Elegant

kristenj — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:58:26 GMT

Ugh. Can you see if Blooming Elegant Sans (the all-caps) is still available? That's my most used for holiday card family names and invitation details, so I'm pretty worried about it. (Whatever is being rolled out today hasn't made its way to me just yet.)

Re: Blooming Elegant

kristenj — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 18:17:40 GMT

Nevermind. I see the update now and it is indeed gone.

Re: Blooming Elegant

Marcia — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 18:28:21 GMT

What about the products that you've previously made with the font? Is it still on them?

Re: Blooming Elegant

kristenj — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 18:31:58 GMT

It is -- thousands and thousands. I can edit text on existing products that use Blooming Elegant Sans, and publish with it, but can't select it when creating new text. Really need to know what the next steps are here, because there's no other comparable all-caps sans serif in the font library. If it gets "auto migrated" to something, I'm very concerned about the potential outcome. The communication on this was poor. This wasn't exactly an obscure/rarely used font family.

Re: Blooming Elegant

Marcia — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 18:38:05 GMT

That's good to know. I'm not freaking out quite as much now. There's at least a couple thousand product for me, as well. I'm shocked that they did away with this font, since it was so popular AND they didn't replace it with something equivalent!!! I know it was way overused – I'm certainly guilty of that – but that was because it was the only font like that that had swashes. I was under the impression, for some reason, that the new fonts would replace unpopular ones.

Can a moderator comment on this, please???

Re: Blooming Elegant

Cat — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 18:52:22 GMT

I still have it, but I don't have any new fonts either. I'm REALLY hoping that it's just a mistake or something that's lost in re-organizing the fonts, because it would be colossally stupid to do away with probably THE most popular font in the marketplace - at least for wedding designs. Why would Zazzle shoot themselves in the foot that way? It doesn't make sense.

Re: Blooming Elegant

kristenj — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 20:12:59 GMT

Trying to make a running list of what appears to have been removed, so far:

Blooming Elegant

Blooming Elegant Hand

Blooming Elegant Sans

Holiday symbol font

Maritime BT - symbol font with all the little lobsters, boats, etc

Sugar Plums

Sugar Plums Italic

Sugar Plums symbols

Most of the symbol fonts, including the one a lot of people used for religious symbols

One of the Parisians, I think - Parisian TL?

Re: Blooming Elegant

LMGildersleeve — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 19:29:29 GMT

It takes time for everyone to see the new fonts. It's not like they can flip a switch and everything changes automatically. You'll see them soon enough. ☺️

Re: Blooming Elegant

LMGildersleeve — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 19:33:57 GMT

I will be curious to see what Z replaces our Blooming elegant with. It was a good run with that font family while it lasted.

Re: Blooming Elegant

DesignerOne — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 19:36:01 GMT

There’s been multiple threads since the font announcement asking moderators for a retired font list (this should have been a simple thing to provide) or for a way to filter affected products and yet it seems NONE of them have been replied to.

Auto-migrating to fonts that they choose is a terrible idea. Who are they to decide what font works (with the rest of the elements) on our designs? And us not having a way to know which of our hundreds and thousands of designs are affected by the retired fonts (and possible auto migration) is worst. Retiring fonts (some very popular ones) is bad enough, auto-migrating is going to be a colossal disaster when we have re-edit every single one.

Right now we only know of Blooming, there are probably others to come.

Re: Blooming Elegant

Cat — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 19:43:23 GMT

Well, it's updated now. This is a disaster! I'm crossing my fingers that they're gonna grandfather in existing designs because I literally have THOUSANDS of products that will be impacted. I feel like crying.

Re: Blooming Elegant

Cat — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 19:46:01 GMT

Whatever they choose, the chances of the ligature characters being replaced with something similar are almost non-existent. - which means that they're about to destroy a significant percentage of their wedding designs. Shaking my head.

Re: Blooming Elegant

grafixmom — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 19:54:08 GMT

I don't see a replacement font for Blooming Elegant in my existing designs yet, so staying guardedly optimistic. I am excited to see the new fonts, however, and really looking forward to more variety. Thanks Z!

Re: Blooming Elegant

CrazyMermaid — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 19:58:39 GMT

I don't see Blooming Elegant listed under All fonts or Handwriting and Calligraphy. However, it is still showing on products. It could be that the font listings are still migrating to their new home.

Re: Blooming Elegant

CrazyMermaid — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 20:00:06 GMT

Blooming elegant is still on my products, just not in the listing. I think it just needs time.