What's the difference between zazzle_invitation2 and zazzle_invitation3?

[Cat]

I was looking at my recent sales, and one of the items in my royalty history report says that it was transferred from zazzle_invitation3 to zazzle_invitation2. From looking at my other sales it seems that zazzle_invitation3 is just a regular invitation, but I have no idea what zazzle_invitation2 is. I figure it must be a different product because why else would somebody transfer the design. I looked through my royalty history for the past few months and can't find any other instances of zazzle_invitation2. Is it maybe a folded invitation? 

I'm asking because generally when someone transfers one of my designs to a different product, I go ahead and transfer the original and put it in the marketplace on that other product because I figure if one person wanted the design on the other product, others might too. But I can't figure out what this one was. Anybody have a clue?

[Connie]

I think it might be a different paper type? Or maybe a different shape? Just because it is marked as transferred, doesn't actually mean it was transferred to a different product altogether. They mark digital downloads as transfers, for example.

Can you click on the product, and see what option they chose? (It used to work that way, when you click on it from the royalty history page, it takes you to the product with the options that the customer ordered. Not sure if it's still like that or not, and I don't have any transfers to check myself).

[Cat]

That's a thought. But when I click on the link in my royalty history report it just takes me to the original product with all of the default settings (size, cut, paper, envelopes, etc.) Hmmm.... the mystery deepens... It must mean something!

[ColsCreations]

I have a very old spreedsheet (last updated Aug 2021) with detailed info on all the card types then.
That list has a /pd/spp/pt-zazzle_invitation3 on, but no _invitation2. So whatever 2 was, it wasn't something still around when I made that list.

If you look at Putting Your Designs on the Correct Paper Products , and scroll to Flat  Cards - Invitation, and then mouse-over the link, you can see the URL for it is /pd/spp/pt-zazzle_invitation2 but when clicked it auto-converts to same /pd/spp/pt-zazzle_invitation3 as above.

https://www.zazzle.com/pd/spp/pt-zazzle_invitation3

https://www.zazzle.com/pd/spp/pt-zazzle_invitation2

So it seems like  2 & 3 are the same thing now, but maybe at some point before the big "paper breakout" reorganization,  they were the same physical product but categorized differently?

Doesn't answer your question as to why or how someone could have transferred from 3 to 2, but it's something. 🤔

[Cat]

Wow! Thanks so much for doing that research. I'm betting you're right and that it does have something to do with the whole paper breakout, and it certainly seems like whatever 2 is (or was) that it isn't anymore. But it sure is a mystery as to why or how someone transferred the design. 

[NigelSutherland]

Possibly the old invitation is obsolete and has been superseded by the new one - even if it's essentially the same make-up. Could be an automatic redirect/upgrade for the customer behind the scenes.

[Cat]

Well that's an interesting theory. But the transfer was made from the newer variety to the obsolete one, so it doesn't make sense. 

[Barbara]

I've had a similar thing happen with postcards, and it's often appeared as if the customer has been clicking on some sort of alternatives that weren't really any different from a standard postcard. Probably as confusing to them as it's been for me and as those invitations are.

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[Cat]

It must be something like that. I played around a little bit more from the customer's perspective - meaning I looked at other designer's invitations to see what the transfer options were. Sure enough, the first option is to transfer to an invitation - which makes no sense. Why would you transfer from an invitation to an invitation? But anyway, when you click on that option, the url still says invitation 3 and not invitation 2: https://www.zazzle.com/pd/spp/pt-zazzle_invitation3?....

Who knows. I guess it's just one of life's little mysteries. Stuff like this makes me a little crazy though (otherwise I'm completely sane! 😋)

[Mariholly]

Oh, how curious and intriguing... Well, I was snooping around a bit and found this: https://www.zazzle.com/pd/spp/pt-zazzle_invitation2?dz=eafe0a1d-3f4a-40df-99ac-adb70cf317db&clone=tr....

It's a card with rounded corners, but it might have nothing to do with it. I tried to check when it was created to see if it was an old product, but I couldn't find the identifier. Also, just by opening it, it got saved in my designs, but I think that design doesn’t even exist or is hidden. I didn’t even edit it, yet it got saved in my folder. It's weird...

In any case, how did your client find out how to transfer?? I'm really intrigued.

[ColsCreations]

That's a link to a not-published product. But if you scroll down to the Create Your Own From Scratch, it opens the _invitation3 blank.

For a published product, you can look at the Quick Stats tab and at the bottom of that drop down, it shows the blank you used. Super helpful feature I am glad they introduced as before, the only way to look back and figure out the actual blank you used was to hope it sold and look at the line on the royalty history that identifies the actual /pd/spp/pt product.

[Cat]

Hmmm.... maybe it has something to do with saved designs? Like if the customer worked on it a bit and left it in their saved designs and then came back to it the next day maybe the system somehow flags it as a transfer?

It is an intriguing mystery... and SOOO much more fun than working on my taxes, which is what I really should be doing! 😁