Feedback for NPL Ornament Cards

James
Creator Team
Creator Team

Hi Creators,

Have you seen the latest addition to our Paper products which can also be used as an ornament AND gift tag? Check out our new Ornament Cards, here and let us know what you think. 

Thank you. 

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Cat
Honored Contributor III

Just curious what "NPL" means.

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Contributor III

NPL = New Product Launch

Cat
Honored Contributor III

Ha! Thank you! I was thinking it was something about the kind of paper or... well I don't know but "new product launch" never occurred to me! Maybe someday I'll adjust to communication via acronym, but I doubt it!

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Fiorenzo
Valued Contributor II

Oh! These are truly lovely. Nice addition. And we got a front-and-back preview, too!

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northwestphotos
Valued Contributor

Love these!

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Contributor III

Ahh, can see them better on the laptop. Nice and a more cost friendly and possibly a more sustainable option for buyers. Do they have any layer of plastic in them? Are they fully recyclable/compostable? If so, it would be great if you add those details to the product page, in fact for all paper products.

Fiorenzo
Valued Contributor II

@James, you need to adjust all regular previews, the card is way too dark and especially light designs look extremely dull and ugly. I assume you print on white paper, so, please, make the card white and the background a tad darker for some contrast. You may add perhaps a slight shadow. The in-situ look better. Thank you.

ornamentcard.jpg

 

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ColsCreations
Honored Contributor II

This YinYang is black & white, no background, so rest of ornament should be the actual cardstock color. And since white doesn't print, that half of the symbol should also be the cardstock color. The previews seem to show that the three different cardstock choices are varying shades of gray you can compare to the white ribbon they're hanging from. The previews on the tree, though, they all look white with no discernible difference to me. And the matte one on the wrapped present looks very white even though it is more gray in its other previews. So regardless of what the cardstock colors actually are, the previews aren't showing it consistently.

I know previews are never perfect with shading & shadows and such but for these I think it's important to know what the actual cardstock colors are - white or off shades of gray. If the cardstock is actually gray than yeah, that'll mute the colors of the design printed on it.

 

Superfine EggshellSuperfine EggshellPearl IcePearl IceMatteMatte
Superfine EggshellSuperfine EggshellPearl IcePearl IceMatteMatte
Superfine EggshellSuperfine EggshellPearl IcePearl IceMatteMatte

 

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Fiorenzo
Valued Contributor II

I agree with you, but all 3 paper types are white (see paper details). Not gray. And especially not dull gray. I can guarantee, the final product will look like my adjusted variant. And I would NOT buy a product that is as dull as on the actual preview, except if it's printed on special silvery or pearl shimmer paper, but this is a completely different story. If you look at the ribbon, it is also not white but grey.

It's the same story we had (and still have but to a lesser extent) with the new cards at the revamp. Light designs looked dull but the printed cards look perfect. It's the attempt to add some texture in semitransparent greytones and the lack of more sophisticated blend modes like screen or multiply that gives the designs a grey haze, when you put them over the image. It's ok if it's a slight adjustment burt this gray is way too dark on all papers. Same story on the new square pillows previews, the gray shades are way too strong and make white and pastel tones look dirty. 

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ColsCreations
Honored Contributor II

Where are you seeing the paper type described as white? I looked at the details when I first saw these on the homepage as I wanted to see how thick they would be. All I see in the details is this

Matte = 150# GPA Dull Cover
Superfine Eggshell = 120# Mohawk Superfine Eggshell Cover Paper
Pearl Ice = 110# GPA Pearl Ice Cover – Pearl Ice Paper

which tells me the thickness is equal to or greater than a postcard (110 or 120 depending on whether it's matte or semi-gloss) but if it's also telling me the color I don't understand what I am reading?

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Fiorenzo
Valued Contributor II

Look at the pictures in the "Compare Paper" details. Did also a quick Google search with the paper specifications, these are all white papers. It seems the Pearl Ice is Italian and has a shimmery tone, still white. Found this description on a site called printpapa): "It shimmers! It sparkles! It glistens! Our Pearl Paper will make any design radiate with brilliance. They create a stunning visual effect giving a luminous appearance right through the printed image. This is a great paper for invitations, postcards, greeting cards, and more."

P.S. not saying they shall make it pure white, but not that overly dark grey. Make the background darker and the paper lighter and it can still have some greyish texture on it. In-situ are fine.

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Fiorenzo
Valued Contributor II

GPA apparently stands for substrate papers of a brand owned by the Italian Ferrigoni group, just found out. Found also a catalog. Interesting: http://gpa.victormichael.net/sites/default/files/GPA_Digital_Product_Catalog_1.pdf 

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Deb
Valued Contributor

I was just coming here to mention the very same thing.. until this gets fixed I will wait to create any.. 

Pixelan
Valued Contributor

Always nice to see new products to design for on Zazzle, thanks!

ElizabethR
Valued Contributor

Can the material these are made from hold up to add glitter or cotton with glue areas or paint it yourself areas?

ArtVixen
Contributor

This is a great idea! I've never seen ornament cards before. Can't wait to create some! 

Wildart
Valued Contributor

I was a little confused when I first went to create one, I thought this was a CARD, with an removable ornament! I think it should be re-named, Shaped Flat Ornament or something similar, the word card to me always means greeting card, and I am a cardmaking crafter, (if I am purchasing some card base product it is always called, white card stock, or colored cardstock. ) the finished product is card! I give a card.

I think pairing a greeting/Christmas card and ornament would be fun, 

Visual artist,papercraft novice,handcrafts enthusiast.

Jadendreamer13
Valued Contributor III

A greeting card with a perforated, punch-out ornament would be awesome. I think this is currently merchandised to be used more as a gift tag than a greeting card, but I could be wrong.

It has an option to add an envelope which would indicate it can be mailed as a card as well as used as an ornament.

That's what I had imagined as well. Maybe Card Ornament would work for a title?

Jadendreamer13
Valued Contributor III

How about adding silhouettes of a boy and a girl to be used for birthdays? And a truck and ballerina or mermaid shape also for use at birthdays. And a stork for baby showers? Or even a plain circle or square shape? Zazzle could really go to town with an expanded line that includes shapes that can be used for events other than Xmas.

Great ideas! These could be used for all kinds of events, including weddings, with a bridge/groom silhouette or a wedding ring. 

Sea-Change
Contributor II

Thanks, James! This is a great addition, but I agree about the naming. I was expecting a card with a paper ornament either attached or perforated vs. an ornament made from card stock. So, I would advocate for renaming this and creating such an "ornament card," which would enable customers to give an ornament and send a card at the same time.

I would also strongly advocate for adding a square shape, so that we can easily transform our square ornaments into the paper ornaments. The two existing shapes are very attractive, but it's hard to make them look good with people photos. The "safe print" area is pretty small on the current shapes, given their fancy edges, so bleeds/fills could be challenging or cut off important parts of a photo. A I understand it, customizing with family/pet photos is a big seller for ornaments, and it's much easier with square shapes.

Otherwise, please share my thanks to the team for introducing cool new products!

Claire
Contributor

Is it better to classify this as a Christmas card or an ornament in the department tree?

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ColsCreations
Honored Contributor II

That's a really good question. To me, the main purpose of these would be as a novel Christmas card you would send to others instead of a standard card that would get thrown out or maybe displayed on the mantle or wherever for the rest of the season. At 5.25" x 5.25",  it would be huge as a gift tag (and expensive for that purpose). That's even really big for a tree ornament. The ceramic, ball, acrylic and pewter snowflake ornaments are all only 3" or just under, and with the pewter one, the design area is only about 1.5". A 5x5 inch ornament would be obnoxiously big for a spot on a tree you've probably already decorated before receiving it. And if people wanted a commemorative ornament for themselves, wouldn't they buy a real ornament that would last through the years instead of a cheap postcard-thin paper ornament? I don't know but I personally see these as a novelty card that the recipient can easily hang somewhere if they're the type to display their collection of Christmas cards received. I also see these as maybe catching the interest of businesses that send cards to customers and would like something that stands out from the bland run-of-the-mill folding cards that go straight to the trash when I get them from my dentist and insurance agent and ...

Outside of the holiday season, I bet people can come up with all kinds of alternative uses for these (if they become available in other than xmas shapes) but for right now, I personally would put them in the Christmas card category.

Anyways, I know this thread is only five days old so I am being impatient, but I am really hoping for a Mod to confirm here about the cardstock colors & image previews. I designed one today I want to order about a dozen of but I don't want to have to buy a sample of each cardstock choice to check the colors.

(ETA:  I would put them in the Christmas card category assuming that's the use you've designed them for. If you've designed them to be a low-budget ornament instead, then the ornament category would of course be a better choice.)

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Fiorenzo
Valued Contributor II

Agree with your thoughts. If I do these, I'll put them in my cards category.

In regard to the prints and cardstock: I'll buy you a pizza if the papers are greyish and the print comes out like on the previews.

Talking about cardstock: one of the (German) online printer services I have worked with for years for commercial prints offers a sample of all their cardstock (for free). Approx 50 cardstocks of all sorts, including special papers like metallic and pearl, and special print options like embossed, UV, foil, etc. A big help when it comes to customer suggestions and design adaptations. Will suggest it.

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That's a really good point about the size. Thanks for the feedback!

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