How long does search indexing take?

[welshdesigns]

I started some new stores the 4th of August (almost a month ago) with super unique names that's not all over the internet.  Hoping to get cleaner search results eventually.  I've been checking google's normal search, and gemini AI search, and one of the stores finally popped up, but not the others.  So I went to Zazzle and just searched my store's name, and none of the new names come up.   They are all set to public and stuff, so I know it's not that.  Does anyone know how long until Zazzle will have them show up?  It seems weird Google found one, but Zazzle won't return it. 

[Jadendreamer13 · Accepted solution]

Customers typically don’t search for products by a shop name. If they like a shop, they will follow it, so they can find it in the future. If I search on my own shop name on Zazzle, I can’t find it, either.

Customers search for a particular product, which may result in them viewing a collection, but they rarely visit a designer’s store.

And speaking of stores, Rick, running, optimizing, and maintaining 7 stores (like you’re currently trying to do) is taking time away from the tasks that will make you money—designing and marketing. So, do yourself a favor and stick to just one shop. You can have a general store that encompasses all your designs and all the products you offer. Streamline your business from the beginning. Don’t create extra work for yourself.

Frankly, if I had an opportunity to start a new store/business all over again, I would just use a name — like Rick Welsh Designs. It has a nice ring to it, right? Put your name up in lights, so to speak (like Kate Spade, for example). If you don’t, who else will?

Go get, ‘em, Rick.

[welshdesigns]

I'm sort of happy to hear your store doesn't show up in search  either, though frankly I don't understand Zazzle's logic there.    As you might remember (me) you helped me a few weeks ago, I had trouble IMHO using Welsh Designs as my store name, as it's two strong adjectives in the world of search, so nothing of mine shows up there at least from Zazzles site, where RB and TP with the exact same name does.  

Stop here if you're not interested in my history.  I started Zazzle long ago 2018?, when you could batch duplicate designs across products..  I did many, way too many (since deleted too).  At the same time, I did the same on TP and RB to see what worked, all three similar tagging, titles, and descriptions.  Both TP and RB sold pretty quickly.  RB has 800 sales and 2000 likes, and TP has 1600 sales.  Zazzle never sold enough for me to get a payout.  So I stopped even looking until a few months ago when I got a payout finally.  I looked to see how/why and saw I'd get a sale 1 or 2 a month, but never enough to pass the threshold because I was inactive on the account.  SO, I decided to dig into and see why Zazzle doesn't work when RB and TP worked, at lest good enough for me anyway, this isn't my job.   I started digging into views and most of my products were hidden because they never got any views in the timeline required.  I also saw most if not almost all never got any views at all while they were up.  Hundreds were zero!  So I have time on my hands and decided to try to fix my Zazzle stuff.  I decided my store name "Welsh_Designs" won't work, and went to start over so to speak.  In doing that, is "seemed" quite a few of the top sellers have multiple stores, especially if they have several design styles like I do. (Watercolor Art, Photography, Graphic Illustration).  So I'm setting out to fix my store names and added new ones.  I renamed the old one, but the underlying store is still Welsh__Designs beause that's what it started under and you can't change it which according to a google gemini search session is a potential issue.  When store name and store it's started under are different the algorithm can see a conflict and not index that page..  Hence new stores.  So in a nutshell I'm still trying to figure out the search process on Zazzle actually works, as it's weird to me compared to RB and TP and others places like Amazon or Google where my stores and products do come up in searches.  I'm slowly fixing titles, descriptions and tags as I go, but sometimes I stop and design instead because that's more fun! Ha!  I'd determined to crack this nut, so stay tuned! 🙂

[Jadendreamer13]

I personally think that Zazzle is a particularly hard nut to crack, although I do like the platform. There is a YouTuber who just this week reviewed all the popular POD platforms, including Zazzle, RB, TP, and more and created a rating system based on his earnings data and the number of customers who use each platform. You might find that video interesting (and helpful).

[welshdesigns]

Ohh, I’ll check it out.  I like Zazzle’s products and design tool.  Search is killing me though! Ha!

[ColsCreations]

For searching by store name on Zazzle, you have to use the store name exactly as it is in the URL, not the pseudo-name you can change on a whim. 

[welshdesigns]

Yeah, that's what's a bit weird.  Because you can't have spaces in url's which is needed when setting up a store, Zazzle recommends putting in an underline or underscore "_" which I did.  I had my store as Welsh__Designs (2 underscores) because, as I found later,  there already was a store called Welsh_Design (1 underscore).  Then the pseudo-name I changed to be Welsh Designs, but it's useless it seems.  Anyway, search engines skip over underscores and call it a space in some/most cases (according to Gemini anyway).   Google searches it as just Welsh Designs as two words, neither of which are good search words for my store/products individually.   So I'm abandoning it all together and starting pretty much over with new names and stores to see if that's why I hardly get any views at all. Yes, it could be I suck at tons of other things, but it's just weird to me RB and TP seems to find my stuff better with the same products, tags etc.  We will see. 🙂