Zazzle Tips: How to Increase Your ZRANK by 3 points in 24hrs - from 5 to 8!

CreativeLeahG
Honored Contributor III

I've been saying this for a while so I thought I'd 'prove' it.

One of my stores as shown here re 21st Nov 23 (you can see the date in the screenshot) zrank 5

 

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One day later it is zrank 8

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How did I do this?

As stated a few times, my observation is that the views:sales ratio is all important

To improve my ratio I took the following steps

 

  1. I first set my filter to 240 products
  2. I set the 'most views all time' filter
  3. I went to the LAST page (to see the least views)
  4. I 'HID' (not deleted) everything with 0 views (excluding NEWLY added products)
  5. I changed the filter to NO sales and hid those too

Hiding means you can 'unhide' if there is no detectable difference or to boost your product numbers at a later date.

NOTE: The results of this will vary depending on your existing sales and store performance BUT trying this is not a risk as you can simply UNHIDE if after 3 days you see no increase in zrank.

If you want to be LESS cavalier when hiding products, elect to only hide items that are very similar in design and product type or products in collections that have less value re likely sales etc.

Good luck and share your results here!

 

 

 

 

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designsbydani
New Contributor III

Does zRank matter above rank 4?, or is it just for your own morale, so to speak? 

Generally the higher your zrank, the greater the 'visibility' in the marketplace.

There is no 'morale' aspect to zrank given no one but you can see it.

ElizabethR
Valued Contributor

How often does Zazzle change zrank? Daily? Weekly?

CreativeLeahG
Honored Contributor III

It's an automated thing based on how your results change. Unpredictable! This change happened within 24 hours.

Thank you 

Pixelan
Valued Contributor

I was with you until step 5 "I changed the filter to NO sales and hid those too"  then I would have to hide 98% of my products 🥲


Hopefully December will be a good month 🤞

CreativeLeahG
Honored Contributor III

Yes you have to weigh up what is practical and as Lynn-Marie, said it's just an experiment, and to see if it increases zrank and then sales. If not, one can all go back to normal.

LMGildersleeve
Valued Contributor III

Those products you are hiding may be in collections posted on social media. Once they are hidden your collections are gutted here on Z and the links are going elsewhere on individual products.

For those who don't have huge stores like Leah's may want to reconsider as @Pixelan has done not to try this experiment.

This is not a magic bullet... just an experiment.

These aren't huge stores, max 4000 in each one.

You're absolutely correct that hiding products may affect collections (if they're in them). I haven't observed any benefit from collections so for me this temporary action has no cost. Re referral links .... same ... no cost based on the current situation re referrals. Each person has to weigh up the pros and cons for themselves. 

I've seen the benefit of Collections while shoppers are already on Z. Not so much for outside links.

That's good news.

toothgame
New Contributor II

I've had products up for 10 years and there's probably 0 views ever on some of them. My zRank is 5. I might just go and delete them, but it's hard because they are my babies, but it's a lot of volume in my store.

I had to cull all my stores down to under 100,000 but I have about 20 products fall into hidden because they haven't been viewed in 15 months. Should I maybe just let those stay hidden when they fall off?

From my experience, views don't affect the Zranks. It appears that the rank fluctuates based on the ratio of products (different products) sold to the total number of products listed. Both of my stores went up in rank the same time a product that has never sold before made its first sale.

LMGildersleeve
Valued Contributor III

@CreativeLeahG1st store. 220 public products to start. After hiding deadbeats I was left with 41 products. Original zRank 6 now the zRank is a 9.

The big test will be for sales. There are mostly birthday products in this store so no Christmas sales will come out of it. I'll let you know after Q1 if sales picked up.

That's a significant jump! Fingers crossed for sales.

If we don't see any significant jump in sales then we know zrank is nolonger something we need to concern ourselves with.

If we don't see any significant jump in sales then we know zrank is no longer something we need to concern ourselves with.

Well wait now, that's a non sequitur. There's a thousand reasons you might not see any jump in sales with a higher zRank. A better measure would be to note how a few items place in some specific searches and then if your attempt to boost your zRank was successful, check the same searches. Did the products get bumped higher in the results? Are you more visible on the Creator Stores filter than you were before? And, are your Views increasing at a rate they weren't before? If your products are getting better placement in search results and if then you are getting more views, that might result in more actual sales, but again, there's all kinds of reasons those two things might not be converting to sales. Sales alone are not a meaningful measure of zRank's worth.

I'm not saying that a higher zRank isn't desirable or helpful, just that using sales alone as an indicator of its worth is a misdirect.

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yes, good points, I didn't think my comment through

And the answer to many of those questions (specifically MP placement using keywords) is no thus far. That was one factor of choosing the store I did. The products were selling well (every other day or so) and also had been in the top three pages of the searches for the same keywords. The sales have dried up.

This experiment is on-going.

@ColsCreations 

Leah's test store went from 5 to 8 and yours from 6 to 9. You said your products already had good MP placement and were selling nearly daily, and at Platinum, we know Leah's were already doing good, too. I think we need someone who hasn't met such level of success yet, someone with uhm, much more sporadic sales, to try this. Like me I guess.  Been at 5 for very long time, have only around 550 products, and while not really a niche store, I don't do much in the way of the popular products (stationery, tee's, mugs ...) or trendy designs.  I think I'll try this after the big sale week is over and if the rank goes up, see if I can pinpoint any difference. But, what did you mean re hiding guts collections? That concerns me. Are you saying collections won't show on the product page if they have hidden products in them?

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This would be a good test.

Meanwhile I have seen a massive decline in sales with Editor's picks replacing my best sellers in the 'most popular' filters, Zazzle removing me from their advertising channels, and the lowest price filters (re wedding invites) providing misleading results and now my affiliate links are being redirected to a landing page (not my store page) which has seen my promoter 2 referrals dry up.

Zazzle is sadly taking steps presently to curtail their most successful sellers income. I am looking elsewhere for a more reliable (and loyal) platform that recognises those who helped elevate them and for whom like me drive thousands of customers each week to Zazzle - not anymore. I can drive those thousands of customers elsewhere, where I hope they appreciate and value my efforts.

To clarify collections comment:

After hiding products, when I am logged into my account I can see all 17 collections from that store. When I view in public view, I have only 5 collections showing. This means there are entire collections hidden because all the products in that collection are also hidden.

Coming from Pinterest, my hidden product pages are still shown to the potential customer. This means of course, while viewing my store as public, the hidden products shown with non-hidden products in collections are also still visible.

I hope that was a better explanation @ColsCreations 

I agree, I have found some niches in the early days(2000's which has led to continuing sales, and I have gained better knowledge of how to design for a product, and what I am not very good at..(weddings haha_) So I will play to my strengths that I do know of, and build on my niche products/sellers. I still TRY to do weddings, but I IDK the text stuff just stumps me, the spacings, the variations etc...(yeah I know its the KERNINGS and the LAYOUT !!)

Visual artist,papercraft novice,handcrafts enthusiast.

WHS_Designs
Honored Contributor II

did this with a store that has 970 products a couple of days ago (reduced to 102).
zRank went from 5 to 6.

Wildart
Valued Contributor

pretty much the same here in numbers and rank for me, I futher reduced total  just a few more ..we'll see what it looks like once the xmas products get hidden... I have some to delete and some to expand on withbetter keywords.

Visual artist,papercraft novice,handcrafts enthusiast.

1234Shine
Contributor II

@CreativeLeahG  Do you see a correlation between higher Zrank and higher ranking on the marketplace?

CreativeLeahG
Honored Contributor III

That used to be the case. Editor's pick trumped that, and now I'm not sure if it has any effect.

mischakaydesign
New Contributor III

I decided to give it a try this week. My store has around 1200 products and it was reduced to 520. My zRank increased from 6 to 7. I’m sure if I hid more products the zRank would increase by another point (I recently made a bunch of products last month and didn’t want to hide those). 

erinmargaret
New Contributor III

Hello Leah,

Wow! What an increase in your zRank! 😲

My store is complete but my zRank is 3.  My profile will be complete once I like an extra 18 products on the Zazzle marketplace. Is my zRank low because my profile isn't finished?

 

 

🔶Shop Erin Margaret Collections on Zazzle.

CreativeLeahG
Honored Contributor III

You have to follow all the steps needed for profile to be at 100% (no need to like anything in the marketplace).

My zRank increased by another point over the past 24 hours. During that time I liked 20 products to complete my profile.

CreativeLeahG
Honored Contributor III

I've never had to like anyone's products to complete my profile or get a zrank of 4, and I have over 100 stores.

Thank you for letting me know. Have a great day. 

LMGildersleeve
Valued Contributor III

None of this should come as a surprise as this is written in the zRank drop down found on the store's Home page.

 

 

 

 


Review. Frequently review your public products and delete (or set to hidden) any products that are no longer relevant, haven't been updated recently, or haven't been viewed or purchased. Having a lot of products that aren't popular will negatively impact your zRank.

NihalArts
New Contributor II

Hello All. Thanks for the info @CreativeLeahG

I would like to know what products would be considered as "newly added products". i.e. Can products created 2 - 3 months ago be considered as newly added products?

Thanks. 

Perelandrian
Contributor II

@CreativeLeahG have you experimented with then un-hiding those products to see if the zrank drops again? 

Pixelan
Valued Contributor

Just observed something, yesterday I had 1 design rejected that needed approval and now my zrank has jumped from 6 to 5.

I'm not sure if it was related or if it is because I create ~10 new product designs yesterday which increases the total of products and maybe changed the ratio of sold vs total products resulting in a rank decrease. 

As a test I hid around 25 old products that have 0 views, maybe that will increase the rank again.

Still no idea if having a zrank of 5 or 6 makes any difference in visibility, we'll see.