Has Something Changed with the "None" Category
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06-25-2025 02:35 PM
I had three customers come in today as a "none" and, as you will see below -- and the 3rd is the same -- I did not get the anticipated 10% from the sale. On the 22nd, with a "none" I did receive the full 10%.
Is this a system error today that can be corrected or has something changed?
Thanks, Vivian
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06-25-2025 02:53 PM
You're not alone. Check out this thread: Wrong Final Amount for Sale - Zazzle
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06-25-2025 03:05 PM
thanks -- I just checked it out -- once upon a time in my work life I business responsibility for a billing system -- so it isn't hard to recognize when something doesn't make sense.
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06-25-2025 03:11 PM
do you think this should also be posted in the Technical Forum as a possible system problem?
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06-25-2025 03:22 PM
I think the Mods read everything posted anywhere. Because even if they don't chime in you can see them moving posts and combining threads or locking them. I think this should be addressed in the Tech forum as I think that one carries more significance to them, but that would create a 3rd thread on same issue. But they can just combine threads or lock these other two. 😉 From the people who have so far commented, it appears this issue of sales being labeled as NONE but being charged as 3rd Party ones started on the 23rd.
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06-25-2025 05:10 PM
Here are my earnings today with "none" in the Referred column. The earnings amounts look low.
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06-25-2025 05:17 PM
Yes, they do -- you are not getting your full amount. (the top two look like 10% and the bottom even a tad less than that). I've just done a separate post to Heather and if I don't hear from anyone, I'll go on the technical forum but it needs to be addressed. I've come to the conclusion that "none" probably is a link that has expired as a "self" and so is pure enough to be None (seems as good as conclusion as any) -- which would mean it is still our link and not a 3rd party link.
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06-25-2025 07:06 PM
I can't comment for that third sale there as it was transferred and those use whatever your account-wide default royalty rate is, but the first two do match up exactly to being charged as referred sales in the 40% bracket.
But one would earn the same ROYALTY regardless of it being 3rdP or Self-Referred. Maybe I missed it or maybe it was just supposed to be implied, but none of the other comments mentioned anything about checking for a correlating Referral. If there's a correlating referral then these are Self and being calculated correctly, they're just being labeled wrong as None. Which I could sort of understand if as said, they're updating the "reports" behind the scenes and changing labels. Anyway it goes, there's a disturbing mismatch between labels and the expected calculations for them and Zazzle needs to weigh in ASAP as they are eroding trust the longer it goes unaddressed.
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06-26-2025 01:23 AM - edited 06-26-2025 01:47 AM
I checked mine, and the 'None' referrals (that have been charged as third-party referred sales) aren't showing up in my referral history with correlating self-referrals. So they don't appear to be mislabeled self-referrals.
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06-26-2025 05:14 AM
Thank you for having a look and weighing in. I would love to hear from Zazzle on the labeling issue.
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06-25-2025 07:54 PM
I’ve seen this happen too with the 10% royalty. Unless I’m misunderstanding, the Ambassador Program shouldn’t apply the marketing fee to anything earning 10% or less—just to third-party sales where 20% is taken off. Could this be a system issue? Because I’m not receiving my 10% either, even after a 3rd-party sale. I'm getting much more than 20% being taken off my royalty.
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06-26-2025 01:18 AM
I'm experiencing the same issue. Over the past two days, I've had numerous sales marked as "None," and the amounts received are consistently lower than expected.
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06-26-2025 07:43 AM - edited 06-26-2025 08:12 AM
Hi all, thanks so much for bringing this up. We're currently looking into it and will follow up.
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06-26-2025 08:21 AM
@James here is another thread with additional info if that helps: https://community.zazzle.com/t5/general-zazzle-discussion/wrong-final-amount-for-sale/m-p/209537

