Wrong Royalty on Third Party Sale
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05-22-2025 08:38 AM
By my calculations, the Royalty on this sale of a Stone Coaster should be $5.71. Well, it should be 22.6% and not 12.2%, but using Zazzle Math, $5.71. 😅
Department for said Coaster:
Yes, it's only 17 cents this time, but the system scraping an additional .02% off the top doesn't comply with the Agreement and isn't acceptable. We need to be able to trust the system to work and do math as intended, even when we disagree with its intentions. 💔
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05-22-2025 08:45 AM
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05-22-2025 08:55 AM
Thank you for trying, but yes. 🙂 I don't do this math on the fly any longer. I need Excel with a pre-set calculator. 😅
$45.92 x 22.6% = $10.38
Subtract $10.38 x 5% or $.52
Subtract $10.38 x 40% or $4.15
$10.38 - $.52 - $4.15 = $5.71
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05-22-2025 09:02 AM
my spreadsheet agrees with yours. very curious how z calculated this one.
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05-22-2025 09:08 AM
I appreciate the confirmation -- my eyes start to melt when I've questioned my calcs 6 times before posting. 😉
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05-22-2025 09:10 AM - edited 05-22-2025 09:11 AM
just playing around with the numbers - 5.60 is the 3rd party royalty IF the department bracket is set at 41%....
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05-22-2025 11:30 AM
Yes, that's what my math shows also.
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05-22-2025 09:22 AM
Ok, seeing all the money subtracted from our royalties is triggering me all over again. How is this even remotely fair?
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05-22-2025 10:34 AM
17 cents is exactly what I recently earned for selling two postcards. I would not be willing to cede that amount or those sales to Zazzle under the present or any circumstances.
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05-22-2025 11:07 AM
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05-22-2025 11:43 AM - edited 05-22-2025 11:53 AM
$5.71 x 1.96% = your missing $0.11
You're correct, of course -- and illustrate perfectly why I use Excel. 😂 Too late to edit my post, so it stands for now.
I've never understood the Secondary Content situation, but this could have been what happened here.
Good guess! I forget about that b/c I shut down "Edit this Design" when Secondary Content reductions started. None of my new Products have been editable since then (except for the occasional mistake on my part). We shouldn't be paying other Designers for their work out of our Royalties. That's not negotiable for me. 🤷
I do understand it though -- the Royalty Rate is recalculated and reduced on sales which incur a Secondary Content reduction. It sticks out like a sore thumb in Earnings, when we have all Products set to the same rate. I have that Product set to 22.6% and the report shows it at 22.6%, so that shouldn't be it. That said, I was allowed into the Design Tool when I got stuck testing a new interface a couple weeks ago. 🤔 I sent an email to Support with a link, but they're asking me for a link again, so no answer.
Do you remember what year that started? My prior Designs would be open to it. In this case, the background is the reason someone would buy the Product, though it's not out of the question, if the Product Publish Date is pre-that.
ETA: I think Secondary was rolled out with Create, and that would be December 2019, per this news release: https://www.zazzle.ca/about/press/releases?pr=1449335. Product Published in 2018, so possible. Royalty Rate reduction not there, so I guess we'll see what Zazzle says.
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05-22-2025 12:01 PM
https://help.zazzle.com/hc/en-us/articles/360039941013-Secondary-Content-FAQ
According the wayback machine - that Secondary Content FAQ help page was first captured August 5, 2020 so am thinking around then maybe? I could be wrong though

