Wrong Royalty on Third Party Sale

YesItsRoy
Contributor

By my calculations, the Royalty on this sale of a Stone Coaster should be $5.71.  Well, it should be 22.6% and not 12.2%, but using Zazzle Math, $5.71. 😅 

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Department for said Coaster:

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Yes, it's only 17 cents this time, but the system scraping an additional .02% off the top doesn't comply with the Agreement and isn't acceptable. We need to be able to trust the system to work and do math as intended, even when we disagree with its intentions. 💔

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MasterpieceCafe
Valued Contributor III

Are you subtracting the "excess royalty fee?"

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Thank you for trying, but yes. 🙂  I don't do this math on the fly any longer. I need Excel with a pre-set calculator. 😅

$45.92 x 22.6% = $10.38

Subtract $10.38 x 5% or $.52

Subtract $10.38 x 40% or $4.15

$10.38 - $.52 - $4.15 = $5.71 

my spreadsheet agrees with yours.  very curious how z calculated this one. 

 

I appreciate the confirmation -- my eyes start to melt when I've questioned my calcs 6 times before posting. 😉

just playing around with the numbers - 5.60 is the 3rd party royalty IF the department bracket is set at 41%.... 

Yes, that's what my math shows also. 

Jadendreamer13
Valued Contributor III

Ok, seeing all the money subtracted from our royalties is triggering me all over again. How is this even remotely fair?

Saints_Aplenty
Contributor II

17 cents is exactly what I recently earned for selling two postcards. I would not be willing to cede that amount or those sales to Zazzle under the present or any circumstances.

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ColsCreations
Honored Contributor II

$5.71 royalty would have been correct for the 40% bracket. So you made $0.11 less then expected.

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$5.71 x 1.96%  = your missing $0.11

or

$5.71 x 98.04% = the $5.60 you earned

I've never understood the Secondary Content situation, but this could have been what happened here.

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$5.71 x 1.96%  = your missing $0.11

You're correct, of course -- and illustrate perfectly why I use Excel. 😂  Too late to edit my post, so it stands for now.

 

I've never understood the Secondary Content situation, but this could have been what happened here.


Good guess!  I forget about that b/c I shut down "Edit this Design" when Secondary Content reductions started.  None of my new Products have been editable since then (except for the occasional mistake on my part).  We shouldn't be paying other Designers for their work out of our Royalties.  That's not negotiable for me. 🤷‍

I do understand it though -- the Royalty Rate is recalculated and reduced on sales which incur a Secondary Content reduction.  It sticks out like a sore thumb in Earnings, when we have all Products set to the same rate.  I have that Product set to 22.6% and the report shows it at 22.6%, so that shouldn't be it.  That said, I was allowed into the Design Tool when I got stuck testing a new interface a couple weeks ago. 🤔 I sent an email to Support with a link, but they're asking me for a link again, so no answer.

Do you remember what year that started?  My prior Designs would be open to it.  In this case, the background is the reason someone would buy the Product, though it's not out of the question, if the Product Publish Date is pre-that. 

ETA:  I think Secondary was rolled out with Create, and that would be December 2019, per this news release: https://www.zazzle.ca/about/press/releases?pr=1449335.  Product Published in 2018, so possible.  Royalty Rate reduction not there, so I guess we'll see what Zazzle says. 

Sara_H
Honored Contributor III

@YesItsRoy 

https://help.zazzle.com/hc/en-us/articles/360039941013-Secondary-Content-FAQ

According the wayback machine - that Secondary Content FAQ help page was first captured August 5, 2020 so am thinking around then maybe? I could be wrong though