Ambassador Program Vs Without

[wpl]

Has anyone opted out of ambassador program?

Did you make more than being in the program?

May is dead for me and I am seriously considering opting out of the program

Will that help?

Any ideas...?

Thanks in Advance 

[Anne]

I opted out as it does not make sense for me, given I only get a (self) referral once a year or so. And I keep using the rf-code. (Not sure if that is good or not, but I just thought it might be better). Also: sales have tanked AND they are all 3rd party now. Even a " none" is rare these days.
So in short: depending on your situation, it would not make any difference (unless you get a massive amount of self-referrals). My five cents and best of luck with selling! 🙂

[CrazyMermaid]

What do you think you are accomplishing by doing this? If it makes no difference, why not give yourself the chance to earn a referral every so often. 

[Anne]

@CrazyMermaid  It is my understanding that if someone buys a product from another designer and you are in the "ambassador" program, you do not get a referral at all.

[CrazyMermaid]

I think you are very confused. If you are not in the program, you never get a referral, under any circumstance. If you opt in, then you get it sometimes. But if you think of this as a benefit. Fine, I just don't get it It hurts no one but you.

[Anne]

@CrazyMermaid That's not my experience. Can you show where it says that?

[idraw]

@wpl 

https://www.zazzle.com/terms/ambassadors_agreement
Read section 10, closest I could find to what you are asking.

[calartcreations]

It totally deserves to be tested how an account performs with and without the ambassador program because, based on the tests and results people have been posting on the forum, it may occur that your earnings will be better without the program, especially for those with rare sales as "none" and who most of the time get "3rd Party" sales.

[Jadendreamer13]

But that won’t save you from Zazzle’s ridiculous and unfair 50% marketing fee.

[Cat]

Nope. Unless I'm reading it wrong, the marketing fee is charged regardless - so I don't see any benefit to opting out.

[Cat]

oops. sorry - duplicate message, the site was being funky.

[wpl]

Almost all my sales are 3rd party now

[wpl]

How? Can you elaborate?

[CrazyMermaid]

Did you read the document that Idraw linked to above it describes how the program works. I think it is very clear. 

[LMGildersleeve]

@Anne @wpl 

This is how I interpret the Agreement.

From the Ambassador Program Agreement in section 10.
"If this Ambassador Program Agreement is terminated for any other reason, you are only eligible to earn Referral Commissions on sales occurring during the Term of the Ambassador Program Agreement, and Referral Commissions earned through the date of termination will remain payable only if the related orders are not canceled or returned. We reserve the right to withhold your final Referral Commission payment for a reasonable time to ensure that the correct amount is paid by the Customer to us."

In other words, once you are out of the Ambassador Program you do not earn "referral commissions". If a customer clicks on your pin with the rf# after you've left the program you won't earn the 15% referral.