Feedback for Instant Downloads- Now Live!

James
Creator Team
Creator Team

Exciting News, Creators. We've launched Instant Downloads! 

Please feel free to leave your feedback and questions here!

Thanks, 

P.S. We've opened a new discussion board for Instant Downloads! In order to keep organized, we've moved all prior digital conversation into this new discussion board. You can find it here. This new board may take a few hours to appear in the dropdown menu at the top of the page.

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Cat
Honored Contributor III

Could we get a screenshot of the product page, and maybe some info on how the process works so those of us who aren't in the beta group can have some idea of what the customer experience is like and answer the inevitable questions that we'll get from customers who do have that option?

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plumb4me
Valued Contributor

Interesting question, so if a customer finds these digital downloads and then starts a chat with us and ask if we offer the digital downloads, what are we suppose to tell them and where do we direct them to go for information?

 

Cat
Honored Contributor III

I'd probably say something like: "Zazzle's working on adding that feature, but I don't know how long it will be before it's available. You might want to contact Customer Support to see if they can help you."

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plumb4me
Valued Contributor

Thanks, if it ever happens, I'll send them to customer service phone or email.

MaggieRossDogs
Contributor

Yes, please!  I see that many of the GREETING CARDS in my Dance Shop WERE marked as Downloadable Whatever a few minutes ago, yet now that notation is nowhere to be seen.  I would like to know WHAT THE CUSTOMER is going to see and how he/she goes about purchasing the design as a DOWNLOAD.  I have some customers waiting for an opportunity to purchase the designs through Zazzle and I would like to send an eMail with instructions, but not at this point!!!  I have no idea how to purchase these items (and I've been HERE SINCE 2008 or so) so how can I tell my customers what to do?  Thanks !!! Ann K.

Scott
Community Manager
Community Manager

It's important to remember that we're taking things very slowly this time around, so very few customers will actually see this new feature over the next few days. As a result, we do not advise that you advertise or market this new feature until we get a little bit further along. We understand that there is demand for this new offering, but the vast majority of Zazzle users will not actually be seeing this new feature on our website, so advertising it may only create confusion. At this time we ask for a bit of patience while we monitor things from our end to ensure that processes are operating as expected. We do hope to scale things up in the near future, and when we get further along we'll provide an update so that you can start to notify interested parties.

Here's a screenshot of what the user will see. On the right side of the page the user can select Prints, Instant Downloads, or Both. User will be sent through the normal checkout process, and once they check out they'll be provided a link to download the product. This same download link will be found in the user's Order History. When the user clicks on the download link they'll be shown a simplified product page where they can download as png, jpeg, or pdf. This simplified product page will also contain a link to purchase the physical product, too.

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Cat
Honored Contributor III

Thanks so much for the screenshot - it's super helpful to at least have some idea what to expect!

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almdrs
Contributor III

Thanks for the screenshot. I noticed something I didn't know before: "Print + Instant Download" (the best of both worlds) as an option.  😊

Harmony
Valued Contributor

If it was indicated from the beginning that those of us that opted in early would still have to wait for an undetermined amount of time, we may have made different decisions about where to put work in over the past few months. I did a lot of work to get ready and have everything updated, only to now learn I am not included in the roll out. I understand that everything goes to higher rank stores first, but perhaps that could have been made clearer at the beginning. It's disappointing

When will the rest of us that opted in back in October be expected to see our products available as downloads?

Cat
Honored Contributor III

Maybe I misunderstood, but I think that all of the products we enabled as downloadable are available, it's just that they're only available to a very limited subset of customers who have been included in the beta.

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Harmony
Valued Contributor

i took it to read that only some designers have the feature visible. My products do not show a visible download option

ColsCreations
Honored Contributor II

@Harmony

Your digital offerings show to those who landed in the random group with Beta access to DD's, even if you as the designer is not in that group and thus can't see them yourself. I can see DD's so checked and yes, I can see yours.

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CreativeLeahG
Honored Contributor III

The products and designers in the beta test are random not preselected. So you may have a product dd one day and not the next. That's my understanding.

Like you I also understood we would all go live with the beta. And have put in a lot of work to meet the demands of it. Hopefully we will be live soon and enjoy what this new development has to offer.

The 50% sale concerns me as zazzle nearly always has a 50% sale on invites. And for some reason royalty is not actually showing as 50% in the backend. It goes down to something like $2.50.

 

Few bugs to iron out I expect.

 

Scott
Community Manager
Community Manager

All products that were enabled for digital purchase are available in digital format now.

However, they're only available in digital format for a small number of randomly selected users. I explained this in more detail in my post above...the post with the screenshot.

klstock
Valued Contributor

Are digital downloads subject to the same sales/discounts as printed invitations? There is often a 50% off sale on invitations and it would be important to know whether this also would apply to digital downloads.  I asked this in a different thread awhile back but did not see an answer.  

Scott
Community Manager
Community Manager

Yep, they'll be included in sales. The current promo is 50% off digital and print, but it may not always be like this in the future. It's possible that we may do something like 50% off print and 15% off digital, but this sort of capability would need to be added to our promo tools. That's not a small task.

klstock
Valued Contributor

Thank you. I wish sales would not apply to digital downloads and that they would just be a flat price. But that is good to know for deciding what royalty %. So in my case, if I do any of the digital downloads I know to set the % at the highest end to account for those 50% off sales.  

ColsCreations
Honored Contributor II

I've been checking out the Digital Downloads as a customer would see them and have a number of observations / questions. Since this is just the initial test offering I'm sure the Z team is working on all of them but since you're collecting feedback here, here goes... (I'm just going to post one thing at a time in no particular order so as to make it easier.)

#1) Transparency

On printed products, transparent parts of an image reveal whatever the actual product color is and that is reflected in the previews. On digital images, how transparency is represented depends on the application you're viewing the image in. It may show as black, white, gray, a grid pattern or actually transparent where you see the app's background color.  Zazzle has choosen to show it as white.

Here's an example of a card where the center was published as transparent. I put it on kraft paper to highlight that it's actually transparent and not white as represented in the phone in-situ. 

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Here's another example with a twist. This card was published with all white text & elements, on a solid color background you can change.

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 I changed the background to transparent and again put it on kraft paper to highlight the transparency. Since you can't print white all the design elements disappear in the print version. You can certainly have white in a digital image but since Zazzle is also using white to represent transparency, the elements disappear in the phone in-situ, too.

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I am assuming that when someone pays to download a .png version, any transparent areas will actually be transparent, that transparency is not being converted to solid white in the digital files. I get that Zazzle had to pick something to represent transparent areas and that how it actually appears depends on the app the person is using to view it in, which Z obviously has no control over,  but, I think white was a poor choice.  How will customers be able to differentiate between what's actually white and what's transparent?

Going back to the first example, it looks beautiful at the published defaults.

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Customer edits the template text without ever going into the Design Tool where they would see the white is actually transparent, downloads the file, sends it off to a bunch of people as-is. But uh-oh, some people aren't seeing any text on it because for them the transparent center is black and maybe others are seeing gray or a grid. Not the white center the sender thought it had. Invite ruined. Customer embarrassed. Angry call to CS or chat message to Creator. Refund. Bad review ....

I'm being extreme here I know, but I think the white/transparency issue is going to cause a lot of confusion and if at all possible Zazzle should use a grid to rep transparency on the digital in-situs.

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Cat
Honored Contributor III

Very interesting! If it was up to me, I'd make the download look like the mockup - filling in any transparent areas with the color of the paper - so they're getting a download of their invitation, not a download of the artwork on their invitation (if that distinction makes sense.) Seems like if they ordered both print and download, they'd want the two to match and sometimes the color of the paper is an integral part of the design.

ETA: I suppose if they're ordering it to have it printed locally instead of to distribute online, then you wouldn't want the paper from the mockup to be in the background on the .png file. Hmmmm...

Now I'm wondering if you get different results depending on which format you download and/or if the customer gets any choice in the matter. A jpg certainly can't have transparency - so is it filled in with white, or does it look like the mock up? And what does all this mean in terms of best practices for designs with a white background - should we publish it white or transparent? 

Another question is the cut. If the invitation utilizes a bracket or scallop - or especially the ticket shape is that reflected in the download? Seems like you'd definitely want the cut to be reflected in the download if your aim is to post it digitally - because that's really part of the design. But if you plan to print it locally then you wouldn't want that.

Lots of interesting questions to consider!

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Scott
Community Manager
Community Manager

jpeg will have a white background, png and pdf will have transparent backgrounds.

paper type and paper shape are not included with the download, but I do personally like the idea of having the paper shape included as an option.

We have to start somewhere. If we get enough user feedback asking for this or that I'm sure we'll find a way to make it happen.

Yes, a very excellent reason why we test new features before rolling them out to everyone 🙂

I'll pass this along to the team, but I'd like to mention that we have 10+ years of experience selling paper products. This gives us access to several mountains of data to work with when deciding how to represent this thing or that thing because we will know how many products are sold on kraft paper, or how many products have a printed background color, etc.

For clarity, I'd like to add that this is only our starting point. As we continue to expand our testing group we will be looking to understand how customers and Creators alike are enjoying this new experience. It's definitely possible that we didn't get this perfect right out of the gate, and I do agree that some customers will probably want their digital invitations to match their printed invitations.

Things have been looking good with our testing so far, and we look forward to opening the feature up to more users. If anyone has any feedback to share we'd love to hear it!

Barbara
Esteemed Contributor

Somewhere and someplace, didn't Zazzle say the downloads would be flattened and without transparency? If so, it means there would be no chance of white being interpreted as transparent. I assume because of this, any background color we use will be part of the flattened image as would the background color of the product itself. All assumptions on my part because I need to dig up the spot where Zazzle mentioned flattening.

Found it in two different places. Here's one:

"Once the customer purchases the Instant Download, they will receive a private link to a copy of your design where they can edit the template details as well as download the flat file (.JPG, .PNG, .PDF) to their device to share with loved ones to celebrate their life's moment."

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Scott
Community Manager
Community Manager

"Flat" refers to the fact that the design layers themselves will be flattened into the same layer. Doesn't really impact transparency.

Barbara
Esteemed Contributor

@Scott  I'm so used to what it means to flatten a PNG that I assumed it wouldn't retain its transparency, which is interesting since it means the customer will be able to change a background color as long as none is supplied by the designer. Sounds good.

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klstock
Valued Contributor

When  I am playing around with entering a royalty percentage, this is what I get (the first number being the royalty % that I am entering)

97% = $28.35 cost       98% = $42.50 cost       99% = $85.00 cost

Now, if I start at the lower end, the cost only increases by a few cents

50% = $1.70 cost     60% = $2.15 cost     70% = $2.85 cost

Is there something wrong that at the upper end, the cost is almost doubling for each royalty % increase? Or is there something I am missing? 

Barbara
Esteemed Contributor

It looks like an error must have been made.

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Lea
Contributor III

Hi! This is pretty exciting - but also a liiiiittle bit disheartening as I'm seeing a bunch of my older invitations that I'd planned to offer as digital are on "flat card" templates and not actual "invitations" and therefore not eligible. Is there anything I can do there or is my only option to transfer them and list as a new item? I just really hate having duplicate items and also losing some of the views and standing in the marketplace with those invites.

James
Creator Team
Creator Team

Hi Lea, I'm afraid the latter. Even with Product Edit, you cannot change the root product.  We could expand the offering as we roll this out more. So if you can wait, it might save you trouble. 

Lea
Contributor III

Thanks, James! Yeah, I think I'll sit tight on those and just offer what I can and anything new I list. Appreciate the quick response (even if it wasn't quite the answer I was hoping for! 😊)

JulieV
Contributor

So excited for you, Cat! 

Barbara
Esteemed Contributor

Hurray for you, Cat, and for everyone else who will start selling soon!

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TShirtfort
Contributor II

I know I opted out of this and I checked not that long ago but some of my stores have download this appearing. Maybe I didn't do it on all of my stores but how do you check?

Cat
Honored Contributor III

This post should provide the info you're looking for: Creator updates for upcoming Instant Downloads fea... - Zazzle

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Sq
New Contributor III

Hi, how do we disable digital download for a product if we change our mind?  I can see how to enable it, but the option to disable isn't there.

plumb4me
Valued Contributor

In the backend of your shop, under the product, where you can edit the product details, under actions, you can disable it there or in the backend of the shop, on the actual product page, under edit details, under instant downloads, you can disable it there.

Sq
New Contributor III

Thanks, found it!

plumb4me
Valued Contributor

You're welcome

CreativeLeahG
Honored Contributor III

I just noticed a Digital sale, the item is not showing as digital so I assume it maybe 'appears' when a customer selects the product but isn't generally on view, or the product was DD and now it isn't. It's like a whack-a-mole, you don't know when it's gonna come up! Kinda exciting.

wittyprintables
New Contributor II

I stumbled into the Beta test today and all I have to say is

WOW! It looks great!

Very user friendly and I love the overlay of the phone with the invitation. Thank you for all of your hard work on this. I am excited for the coming year ❤️ 🙂